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FC rx7 Full Steering angle and Suspension parts set is released UPDATE p.5

Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:45:46 +0000

soooo i know martinsan drives an fc just kinda wondering why you guys dont make all the links for the fc ? thought it would be the next step but hey who knows.

dan i know your always designing so yeah how bout it broskie ?

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Dan at MAX USA — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:35:49 +0000

working on making these parts.

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porkchopexpress — Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:08:39 +0000

What's going on with this?

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Hollywood — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 02:53:07 +0000

martin loves angle you can tell first initiation is bam mad angles lol love it

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Dan at MAX USA — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:30:52 +0000

bump stop for both left and right turning limit.

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Drift.This — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:58:23 +0000

Sorry for the shitty screen cap quality but what are the 2 bolts in the Y pattern in the picture for? Bumpstops? Just curious. Very nice setup as always.

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BRAD — Fri, 08 Jun 2012 01:49:54 +0000

Sooooo stoked!

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Dan at MAX USA — Thu, 31 May 2012 00:13:58 +0000

ya its about the same process, maybe a little more metal parts go into the FC version.

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Hollywood — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:17:46 +0000

this is cool but every time i see there is an update in the whish list section i think its the seat then i click on the link and see there is not and am sadly disapointed so nsnc=no seat no care lol sorry mang

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Dan at MAX USA — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:03:25 +0000

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BRAD — Tue, 29 May 2012 05:28:45 +0000

Excited to hear how testing goes, definitely going to buy this whenever it moves into production, hopefully soon!

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blindboxx2334 — Tue, 29 May 2012 19:54:47 +0000

Dan at MAX USA wrote ...

blindboxx, did you see the tubes have been doubled at the bend apex? double 1/8" wall thichness = 1/4" thick steel there

yep, i meant like gussets and shizzz

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blindboxx2334 — Wed, 30 May 2012 23:17:31 +0000

sooooo,

i am assuming the knuckle mod will cost about or the same price as the s chassis modified knuckle with roll center correction?

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Juroi — Wed, 23 May 2012 01:58:39 +0000

sugoiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!

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danegerous — Fri, 25 May 2012 00:39:13 +0000

This is insane. It looks like jesses Z33, I can't wait to hear how it goes after the weekend

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ruddyridFC3S — Tue, 22 May 2012 06:27:55 +0000

w00t! Roll center correction!

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Dan at MAX USA — Tue, 22 May 2012 19:06:10 +0000

we wont have more details until we are satisfied with the design and move from the testing phase to production

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blindboxx2334 — Wed, 23 May 2012 00:52:03 +0000

damn, these look amazing! i would just add a lil bracing (sorry the engineer in me is commin out =P), but other than that they're schweet!

really diggin the LCA rear mount as well

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Dan at MAX USA — Wed, 23 May 2012 20:03:10 +0000

blindboxx, did you see the tubes have been doubled at the bend apex? double 1/8" wall thichness = 1/4" thick steel there

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monkey1911 — Tue, 22 May 2012 02:42:15 +0000

When and how much?

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Dan at MAX USA — Tue, 22 May 2012 01:45:45 +0000

FC super angle front suspension package in testing now.

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Dan at MAX USA — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:35:05 +0000

we will for sure.

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Hollywood — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:30:18 +0000

bbbiiiiyyyaaaaaaa. stuper stoked.

ya ya i know i did what i said i wouldnt do and get another apex seal life dependent on rebuilds machine but it was given to me as payment for rebuilding an audi s4 so ya........ wish me luck lol..

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Hollywood — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:56:22 +0000

hey can i pre pay for these ? i know martin has the dimensions writen down somewhere in the back lol.

only need an ecu to make this pile run.

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Dan at MAX USA — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 23:43:34 +0000

Here are some pictures of the rear end parts and the rack spacers

steering rack spacers

Dolid Diff Bushing mount

Solid Diff Riser bushing

Sub Frame Riser solid bushing - ANGLE ADJUSTABLE!

Trailing Arm Camber Link

Sub Frame Camber Arm

Toe Rods

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tipper_86 — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:50:28 +0000

^^^^
man this stuff look amazing!

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Panos Greece — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:44:03 +0000

Those are GREAT!
Can't wait to purchase the angle kit! Hury Up!!!

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RoninPower — Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:10:07 +0000

I heard about this and just had to check it out. Awesome.

I'll be waiting to buy.

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thumpher — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:28:44 +0000

Are the links and bushings available yet?

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danegerous — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:04:55 +0000

bees knees up in here

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slowgxl — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 01:16:09 +0000

soo when are those solid diff mounts coming out?

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Dan at MAX USA — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:50:31 +0000

between 2-13 and 2-20 on the (round) solid subframe and diff riser, more time until the front 2 stud 3 hole solid mount is available.

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slowgxl — Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:56:46 +0000

Ok cool can't wait! I'm glad someone is making a solid front diff mount for the FC's. Keep up the good work man!

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Dan at MAX USA — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:08:35 +0000

will do. we are making everything you could want for this cars suspension

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slowgxl — Sun, 24 Feb 2013 05:12:41 +0000

hey man saw that you posted the new parts...pumped to order them on my next pay check. also i forgot to ask...are you guys making outer tie rods too? i see you guys made rack spacers.

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Dan at MAX USA — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:44:11 +0000

The front end angle parts are made to work with the OEM tie rod and tie rod end because the set will include an aggressive rack spacer.

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Dan at MAX USA — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:33:08 +0000

last longer...typically not because the aftermarket ones are the high misalignment type which has a large surface area to gather dirt and then they wear themselves out faster versus the OEM ones that are lubricated and closed to the elements with a boot which lasts longer.

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slowgxl — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:51:49 +0000

Ah okay....So a lot of people switch to special bearing outer tie rods. Saying that it will help get a little more angle and last longer then stock. What is your take on this? Is it worth switching over or is OEM fine.

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slowgxl — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 05:37:05 +0000

okay cool...thanks for the info Dan.

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Dan at MAX USA — Sat, 04 May 2013 01:06:47 +0000

A few new prototypes we are testing now,

Toe Eliminator Bushing

Trailing Arm Rear Upper Bushing

Trailing Arm Front Bushing spherical bearing conversion

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Dan at MAX USA — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:47:43 +0000

correct, bump stops for both steering directions.

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Dan at MAX USA — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:48:59 +0000

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Dan at MAX USA — Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:22:01 +0000

OOOOWEE

The FC super angle front end parts set is here in limited supply. Send us your knuckle for modification and $1050 plus shipping for everything you need from us which includes:

~ Tubular steel Front Lower Control Arms designed for Steering angle clearance with two hole mounts for your S4 outer joints that are located 15mm forward and 35mm wider than stock (S4 FLCA outer joint is not included)
~ Double bump stops on FLCA to correspond with our knuckle modification included in this set.
~ Teflon lined Spherical bearing front and rear FLCA pivots.
~ Heim joint sway bar links
~ Rack to inner tie rod spacers
~ 45mm Roll center & Super steering angle Modification to your OEM knuckles, not a core exchange, we only work on your knuckles.
(If you find this inconvenient because you are an international customer, get a spare set on Ebay in the US and ship those to us.)

* We will not sell you the FLCA without the knuckle modification because they are designed to work together.
* You will need to use your OEM inner/outer tie rods and also your stock S4 FLCA outer ball joints with these, or purchase some Moog ones as shown but not included with the set. $47.79 ea. here http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=204046&cc=1192340
* If you want to run low offsets and wide wheels like up to 17x10.5-12 up front with our angle kit here, we recommend JTP's 50mm fenders. ($550 front $350 rear)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hot-Line-Performance/187877571854
http://www.justinpawlak.com/hotline-product.php?id=2
Martin at our shop runs modified shine auto fenders (over 35mm wider than stock) with his 17x9+20 & 235/40/17 which would be the highest offset possible

What to do next:
~ Remove your OEM knuckles (spindle without hub, disc etc)
~ Send them to:
Parts Shop MAX USA
220 Engel Street
Escondido CA 92029
~ Check out online.

We know you guys with angle only modded knuckles want to buy the LCA separately from the roll center and angle MAX knuckle mod because you already have angle modified knuckles however lets not forget that the whole point of the cool FLCA designed with more angle clearance is to not hit things in the wheel well. When you do, it's like applying the brakes to 1 wheel and it makes you spin out. Our knuckle is better than your angle modified knuckle because A. It has the structure built in to use the double bump stops built into the FLCA. (Keeps you from hitting the sway bar) B. The roll center mod is a big handling advantage and bumpsteer is eliminated C. Who knows what kind of Ackerman your knuckle has and how that will play out with the fixed width and caster increase of the FLCA? You could end up with anti-Ackerman. When we do make the FLCA available separately in mid January you should also consider the Rackspacer included in the super angle kit. It's wider than any other Rackspacer out there to accommodate this FLCA width. The car performs better with the front sway bar installed for those of you that were forced to take it out before this parts release.

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Hollywood — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:38:33 +0000

so caster adjustment is set in the strut hat of the pro coilover now ? or was it never adjustable even from factory ?

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Dan at MAX USA — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:29:16 +0000

it was never adjustable. The FC needs some more stability than others so we added fixed increase of track width and caster so camber caster adjust is on the coilover lower mount oval hole and the coilover top hat in this application.

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Dan at MAX USA — Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:18:06 +0000

FC SUPER ANGLE KIT INSTALL

Martin's recommended order of installation step by step:

1 ~ remove lower control arm, knuckles and sway bar link and tie rod.
2 ~ take off the OEM outer tie rod rubber boot and clean out the excess grease & install your OEM S4 ball joint on the MAX FLCA
3 ~ install MAX knuckles, FLCA, Rack adapter and tie rod.
4 ~ set the ride height
5 ~ using the top plate set the camber
6 ~ set the toe on the tie rod
7 ~ connect the sway bar
8 ~ set the rear bump stop on both sides (this is the one we weld to the knuckle and this is the main hard hitting bump stop)
9 ~ steer until the the knuckle plate is hitting the rear bump stop hard when there is at least 1 CM clearance to the sway bar.
10 ~ set the front bump stop. It takes 2 people. One person has to steer all the way and the other person needs to make the setting based on observing 1CM clearance between the swaybar and rim
11 ~ the front side bump stop is going to hit the outer tie rod end, not hard but just as adouble asurance to not go past the point during flex when the car is at speed. The wheel will absolutely not hit the sway bar.
12 ~ make sure nothing rubs the front tires in the wheel well by being too low, what makes this kit perfect is that there is nothing rubbing and locking up the front

Martins setting is -4 to 4.5 camber and 1/8 inch total toe out, and more caster on the top plate. so the top plates are set at 45* pointing towards the center of the front bumper and the outsides of the firewall.

JTP has -4.5 to 5 degrees camber and less caster setting by orienting the pro top plates in the normal camber only horizontal setting.

Both of these settings are tested to have good steering wheel return since the FLCA has some additional caster built in, difference is personal preference, wheel size & fitment.

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Dan at MAX USA — Wed, 24 Dec 2014 21:04:37 +0000

Another production run is ready, this one has the 3 stage copper paint.

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Dan at MAX USA — Thu, 12 Mar 2015 22:29:34 +0000

Forged knuckle production is almost ready to sell.

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Dan at MAX USA — Wed, 27 May 2015 03:33:56 +0000

forged knuckle stock arrived!