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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00We are jigging up for some rear knuckles. Planned features:~100% machined steel - no casting components~drop spindle~pillowball replacements for all bushings~improved strength~independent hydrobrake caliper bracketas some of you know I destroyed my OEM rear knuckle which is some motivation for this, that and I think its a badass part to make.the carnage the Jig in processThe limiting factor of how much we can raise the spindle to drop the car seems to be the interaction between the RUCA arm and the axle boot.Our current RUCA arm is upswept already especially designed for lowered cars so if you even try to do a drop spindle on someone elses RUCA your pretty much f@cked. we disconnected the coilover and jacked up the wheel all the way to take a look at the most extreme clearance situation:And then we put it back to a normal suspension compression and measured againIt seems like 3/4" drop spindle is the happy medium because it looks like half an inch is totally safe and 1 inch is the max. with the half inch subframe risers its already a big difference so this should be a great mod for suspension performance on extra low cars.If we wanted to take it farther we would have to sweep the arm up on the RUCA more or get a custom slim boot for the axle, but I'm betting as is its going to make a huge difference without going any farther.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodshits gangster... funny thing is asside from the last round, long beach was his best showing and the car was set up by me and kyle le blanc of dds performance out here in vegas lol... after that round they didnt want to pay us any more so we split !!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI saw that video however there was no mention or image of the rear knux in it. The speedhunters interview, ya thats sweet, what a good guy to give the shout out. Tuerck says "I’ve taken it upon myself to adjust the suspension as well as other things myself and I’ve made the car competitive this year compared to how it has been in years past. In fact it’s probably one of the best 240s I ever drifted just from the simple fact that it’s got a lot of really nice parts on it.....Part Shop Max hooked us up with their rear-drop knuckles that helps out with the bump-steer correction. I never had that kind of stuff on a 240 before. From a competition standpoint I had high-end parts when I was driving for Gardella but I’d never had that before on a 240sx, so it’s one of the best cars with that particular chassis."thats a cool pic of the car squatting, maintaining a very vertical rear wheel travel path due to the MAX rear knuckle.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodhttp://youtu.be/8PQLYIRVyl8the videoRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:0095SILVIA14If i send my rucas in can yall notch them.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAHollywood - Link please?95SILVIA14 - maybe mark them for how much and where they should be clearanced for your particular axle's boot and we would do it. Martin is in japan for one more week though = (Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywooddan here is the link to the interview on speed hunters http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/07/73637/Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodthese got a sick shout out from turk on his latest video super gangster !!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00TravyPooinstalled these a week or so ago, wow what a difference! I thought I already had lots of rear grip, but after these my grip increased so much. Have to stay on throttle way more than normal before and after shots:Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAthe reason we dont offer a line kit for the dual rear caliper is that the long run is most appropriately made with hard lines. Hard lines can be found at the local auto parts store for cheap & are way too long to ship conveniently. You will notch the RUCA for a larger axle boot, and fill in the open tube space where it was cut by welding a flat plate in there.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:0095SILVIA14Hey in product section it says the ruca has to be modified when using the larger q45 axles what all has to be done to the ruca for it to work.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI guess im just that manly. There was not any crash.There has been a couple of articles in DT about broken rear knuckles in the same place.a few of questions about those:1 they look to be thinner where the hub bolts on, and thinner material than stock around the bushing2 they use bushings not pillowballs right?3 What distance to they raise the hub4 it looks like the stock relationship between the top and bottom arms was not maintained, the coilover mount and the LCA were moved down in addition to the hub moving up5 How much are theyRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JZS14Looks awesome. I love the way you guys make your own stuff in house But how an earth did you break the rear knuckle?? Driftworks over here in the UK, have been working on some re-designed front and rear knucklesRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JZS14The original thread is here,http://www.driftworks.com/forum/driftworks-shop/81334-driftworks-hubs.htmlvideo herehttp://www.vimeo.com/38717732. yea they use bushings on the hub end3. i think the front is raised 45mm and 50mm rear5. dont know about price, dont think a price has been released yet.They look like they are working pretty damn well. iirc He's run them in his 2JZ S15 for 2 seasons nowDan at MAX USA wrote ...I guess im just that manly. There was not any crash.There has been a couple of articles in DT about broken rear knuckles in the same place.a few of questions about those:1 they look to be thinner where the hub bolts on, and thinner material than stock around the bushing2 they use bushings not pillowballs right?3 What distance to they raise the hub4 it looks like the stock relationship between the top and bottom arms was not maintained, the coilover mount and the LCA were moved down in addition to the hub moving up5 How much are theyRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13Looks cool.So you're moving the hub up in the knuckle so you raise the roll center? I really like the idea of a separate caliper bracket for a hydro e-brake. However, you should also make extensions for this for people who upgrade rotor size.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAThe concept that is presented in the video (1:07), as pointed out on the front spindle is sound and simple, "by moving the spindle up without changing any of these geometry points..." (you lower the car without fu@king up the geometry plain and simple.)However it appears that the same simple logic may not be used in the creation of their rear knuckle because the lower arm appears moved down in addition to the spindle moving up. Please correct me if im wrong.I dont think the rear axle is raised up 50mm, it looks to be around 30mm no more than 35mm. Maybe the car is lowered by 50mm because some of that is from dropping the coilover/lca mount and some is moving the hub up but from my observations above you would be hard pressed to move the axle and its boot up more than 25mm before it hits our arm, and to my knowledge no ones RUCA is upswept like ours so im thinking its not possible to move the axle up said 50mm and maintain clearance with conventional axle boots and RUCA. The relationship between the rear arms at the knuckle attachment points should probably not be moved or it will change the path the wheel dives under suspension travel. Our 330mm rotors come with caliper bracketsRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Ofc. DangleI fucking love you guys. No homo. Super sick.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13Yeah, I'm saying for the hydrocaliper bracket. Those would need to be extended too.Looks boss. You think these will weight less than a stock upright?I've always wanted to have all pillow-ball bushing in the rear.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI really dont know, we will be using denser metal to prevent snapage though.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13Works for me. Better suspension geometry will probably pay bigger dividends in performance compared to a few pounds.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAas far as caliper options go:What about this $150 ea.http://www.wilwood.com/Products/001-Calipers/031-DPS/index.aspor this $100 ea.http://www.wilwood.com/Products/001-Calipers/022-DLSF/index.aspseems pretty light weight which may be good if there is 2 instead of 1Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAHKS alteza dual caliper setup
the caliper bracket is modular so you can have one or two. Its up to personal preference. Im gonna go ahead and test the dual setup and see if it makes a difference isolating the functions and making the hoses a more direct route. I bet its easier to bleed the hydro, thats always a bitch.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAYou can see here in the mockup how everything is symmetrical and you can choose one caliper or two calipers without effecting the main structure, also being modular allows for custom brackets to adapt any brand, any size caliper mounting pattern to the base.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Martini like the idea of light weight caliper since we gonna add extra one.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Sideways_In_SDMuy machismo papi!Have I told you guys how much I've missed you lately??NO homoMad love tho. I think I'm going to dye the baby's PSM orange.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAHere is the super burly pillowball setup we're using for the knuckle.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13So sick. So pumped.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00sebastien538any updates?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00danegerousWait wait...so the hydrobrake will have it's own caliper?Not sure if I'm reading this correctly but jeeeezuss if it is.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00iraxthis shit is soo hot its barely legalRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Sideways_In_SDdanegerous wrote ...Wait wait...so the hydrobrake will have it's own caliper?Not sure if I'm reading this correctly but jeeeezuss if it is. Yeah boyeee, race-car status!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00frani saw a rear knuckly article in the new drift tengoku mag..i'll bring it in so martin can translateRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00iraxyes, a caliper mount bracket JUST for hydro brakeRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAmartin said almost every FD team car has dual real calipersRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00danegerousJTP saw my PSM Hydrobrake back in like May and was like I don't even have one of those. It was pretty funnyRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00WishIHadaSilviaI understand the point of making a rear knuckle for strength and the separate ebrake caliper, but to correct roll center it would be better to make a new lower control arm.There are not any really good LCAs available (front and rear). None of them are catered to extremely low cars, they just don't adjust far enough to make a big difference. You would also be able to adjust the track.If you guys made some LCAs with nice spherical bearings and heim joints I would be extremely interested in a set. I'd rather buy nice ones then start welding up my own, but I may end up doing it this winter.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI think we should do both.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00WishIHadaSilviaOh definitely. That way your FLCAs are designed in a way to work with your super angle knuckles/super angle knuckles in general (ie not get hit by them). They could be made to work specifically with your rear knuckles as well. I mean I would buy the knuckles just to get the spherical bearing replacement on all of the arms, and I would definitely get your control arms if they could adjust roll center enough (you need a good 2-3" of adjustment I think).Just be sure if you do control arms that you use an inclosed spherical bearing for the joint that mounts to the spindle instead of a heim joint. It would put the rod end in bending at that location (but it is fine on the inside mounting part by the subframe).An easy way to go for the control arms would be to just pick up a bunch of nice spherical bearings (QA1, Aurora, something like that) and weld in housings for them and make a bolt that has the right taper for our spindles. They make lots of stuff like this for stock cars, but nothing in our taper. Here's a website with the different parts on it that you would need to completely replace the ball joint:http://www.pitstopusa.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=2561I was going to go with the parts from that page and just get the spindle bored out to the Chevy taper, or get a straight bolt and drill out the taper all together. It would not be as strong or secure but I doubt it would fail so long as you had a strong enough bolt. Then just take out the ball joint, weld in the bearing housing, press the bearing in, slap a c-clip in there and bolt it up. This could be done on a stock control arm pretty easily with just some reinforcing and you could put a heim joint on the other end like the kit battle version offers.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00mattheripperDan at MAX USA wrote ...since they will be drop spindles I wonder why you want to change the relationship of the coilover mount to the other points.Well I'm not sure if the s chassis stuff goes lower than the r32 stuff I got, but I set the coilovers all the way down via the bottom adjustable perch thing, along with set at full droop, and I still wanted a bit lower. Now I never drove like this as it would have bottomed out the shock easily from what I could see of the shock. So I just got some used Tien coilovers till I figure out something to make up the difference. I would like to be able to work with preload when I do put the MAX ones back in. Essentially I either raise the top mount for the coilovers, or when I buy these you drop the lower coilover mount(preferred). I don't see a difference in the two as far as suspension geometry...and I don't really care if there is. I just want low.This is the same story for front and rear. My Uncle co-owns a machine/welding shop up here in Calgary and I'm going to see if he'll be able to do something on some spare parts to address the front. And I do see what your saying with the drop spindle, however whatever the difference is, with the r32 coilovers 3/4" is not enough to get where I want in the rear. Not mad, the coilovers look great, just don't know what's up and want to use them. Also I realize I have a platform you guys don't focus as much on too, and this might just be the case with most places r32 stuff too. Just trying to figure out solutions so I can run the stuff AND be hideously low like Matt & Tommy but with my 4door. Thanks and you guys are great, I love all your stuff.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAunfortunately we are relying on our machine shop friend for this job which is going very slow!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00swiftminiShit the bed!! Nice work there I have been looking into modding my rear knuckles.The driftworks ones are nice but i canlt afford them and they aren't available yet. When they come out I think they will be about £700 which isn't bad for the time and development that goes into these things.They alter the spindle height by 35mm on the rear and 50mm on the front.The sai/kpi has been altered on the front to help keep the wheel upright on full lock.KevRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13Any updates on this?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAThe sai/kpi has been altered what?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00swiftminiRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00swiftminiOn the front.Steering axis inclination or kingpin inclination.If you project a line from your top pillowball through to the bottom balljoint. Then measure the angle between that line and the face where the wheel mounts. That's your kingpin inclination.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00white lao tzuwhats up with these? i need em!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00mattheripperWhen these are ready, would it be possible to order them with the lower coilover mount dropped a few inches?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00wisdominationfirst post, new here.wondering when these things are gonna be out and a ball park price for them.also, you guys also gonna do rlca's?i got a spare rear subframe, knuckles, and lca's waiting on the side right now to get new bushings and get powder coated. also got all the links from you guys.if the reviews on these things are good when they come out, and the price is right, i'll skip on powedercoating my rlca's and knucks and pick these up the same time i order my coilovers and subframe risers.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAmattheripper wrote ...When these are ready, would it be possible to order them with the lower coilover mount dropped a few inches?since they will be drop spindles I wonder why you want to change the relationship of the coilover mount to the other points.wisdomination wrote ...first post, new here.wondering when these things are gonna be out and a ball park price for them.also, you guys also gonna do rlca's?i got a spare rear subframe, knuckles, and lca's waiting on the side right now to get new bushings and get powder coated. also got all the links from you guys.if the reviews on these things are good when they come out, and the price is right, i'll skip on powedercoating my rlca's and knucks and pick these up the same time i order my coilovers and subframe risers.welcome, is that your car in the sig? post up in the rides section. we dont have a date yet on these, have not even completed the prototype or tested them yet and there is no pricing.yes we want to do lower control arms at some point.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00wisdominationDan at MAX USA wrote ...welcome, is that your car in the sig? post up in the rides section. we dont have a date yet on these, have not even completed the prototype or tested them yet and there is no pricing.yes we want to do lower control arms at some point. oh i see. maybe i'll just stick to the original plan and do up the ones i got for now, then maybe pick up your goods when the good reviews come around as for the car, yeah thats mine, but just got rid of it recently and got another completely stock 40. maybe i'll post in the rides section once the new car's progress starts rollin' and include pics of the old ride as well. things are going slow right now cause i gots other shit to spend money onRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13Just to let you know, I got a bunch of people on Zilvia excited about your rear knuckles:http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/296725-roll-center-suspension-pickup-steering-angle-modification-thread.htmlRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAIf the custom fab is no problem, you can raise the top hat of the strut towers as much as you need to get the desired ride heightRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13And, these knuckles should make your car lower without any adjustments in ride height. Which means you can either lower your car more, or correct your overly lowered coilovers.Dan, I seriously think there is a large market for these. There is now a 7 page long thread on Zilvia about roll center and people are excited for knuckles that have spherical bushings and are produced in the U.S.Tell your machine shop friend to HURRY UP!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13Latest talk is everyone wants aluminum, adjustable knuckles.http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/296725-roll-center-suspension-pickup-steering-angle-modification-thread.htmlRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00chaski need theese lol 2nd caliper mount FTWRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00udon!does roll center need to be corrected in the front or no because no linkRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Never Liftyes.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00udon!where front knuckle?is this an s-chassis exclusive part?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Never Liftare you familiar with roll center adjusters? Popular to do with corollas and datsuns. they are available for S chassis but are different.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Geno750Any updates?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13So I take it this has gone the way of the racing seats?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAThe first prototype knuckle to come out of our Jig:Let the testing begin!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00iraxcan we get a side by side vs stock?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Never Liftmake em say uhhhhhRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00JankiS13OH SNAP. I'm stoked.Did you stick with the original 3/4in (20mm) Correction?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAwe went one full inch drop spindleRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Gabes13Good god, please make an adjustable lca next. I will love you forever!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00chaskthis is why i like PBM you guys are my heros..Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAstill not perfect but pretty closeRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00sebastien538Me want!!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00sebastien538when?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00swiftminiCan I buy some of these yet?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Nisils14When will these be available?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00TongWooCount me in.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00so-cashCount me in too!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00El DriftoWait... Am I high or just slow? I thought I read something about doing a dual caliper setup for the hydrobrake?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAyes sir there will be a dual caliper knuck for independant hand brake useRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00rbs14when are they on the market !!! i need someRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USARear knuckle design finalized. Release date & price to be announced. ~ TRUE 25mm drop (distance between upper and lower mount points has not changed to create a fake drop at the coilover)~ Corrects roll center on slammed cars~ Eliminates camber gain on compression to maintain traction and even tire wear~ Maintains OEM toe in / traction increase upon compression~ 2Lbs lighter per knuckle than stock yet way stronger~ Teflon lined spherical bearings for traction rod, toe rod and upper control arm with 4 year free replacement guarantee~ Uses stock foot brake caliper, parking brake and rotor to maintain stock brake Bias and to keep conversion cost down~ Has mounting bracket for Optional Wilwood dynapro billet dual piston hand brake caliper. ($260/pair with pads) ~ Optional MAX hand brake with independent Wilwood master and reservoir. ($240)~ Lifetime guarantee against manufacturers defects~ Conforms to Formula D rules for suspension and independent secondary brake system~ Compatible with all OEM and aftermarket arms, rods and coilovers. You have to raise the coilover a little over an inch to be at the same ride height you were at beforeThis puts the arms pretty much paralell to the ground and relaxes the axle angle so they dont breakRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USANo plans for R33, the extra calipers are an option that can be purchased with the knucklesRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00so-cashWill you be doing these for R33? Will the willwood caliper come with the knuckle?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregolook great would these be compatible with say an s15 silvia with the bolt in upgrade to r33 gtr5 brembos?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USASince it uses the stock foot brake system, any bolt on adapter will work with its larger rotor, but if you use the second caliper fo rthe hand brake you will end up welding a new mounting position for it.Since the stock brake system is capable of locking all 4 wheels the GTR brakes would just be for looks on a drift car. There would be an actual braking advantage on a circuit racing machine.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00wisdominationJust wondering, will we be able to run z32 rears. I don't see the hole for the Anchor bolt for the ebrake set upRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00rafas13I dont think so but I would rather go with a hydro if I get these. You guys better hurry with these my cv axles are starting to make noise.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAthey dont have a mount for drum ebrake, trying to set a new standard for handbrake performance with the separate caliper.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00rafas13what type of inspection?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00LoFoShoWhen somebody gets theirs and has them installed with brake lines run, post up picks please! Dan, will you guys be selling a brake line kit for the individual calipers and hydro ebrake? I see the 'inline' kit option in the shopping cart, but nothing for the independent setup. Have any better pics and specs on the brake lines used on the kit you have pictured on the r32? Its hard to see where the lines are ran, but I can see that they go under the axle and seem to meet up with the stock lines. What size braided line and which fittings do we need to purchase to mate to the willwood calipers? I'm sure I could purchase all the fittings and line through Earls, but I have not a clue what sizes they are and wont until I order the calipers. Would be nice to know so that everything can be purchased at once.Fantastic work, as always.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00LoFoShoDissregard my fitting question...1/8npt haha Should have read more thoroughly.My question still stands about the brake line kit. Will that be something you guys offer?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00YaskoSo that forces you to go hydro ebrake? bummer...sux for people like me who want to get it to pass inspection...Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodyeah yasko you dont need a parkin brake for anything even for your conveniance you can make a lock system to lock the hydro in place to act as a parking brake. formula drift nor any other drifting sanction require a mech hand brake/parking/e brake.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Willy077need em asap! ready to take em right now!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAIt certainly does not force you to go hydro, you can keep the original brake system and ignore the secondary brake system altogether. Formula D requires the secondary braking system to be an independant system.We have evaluated the Z drum brake and it will require a change of the gusset on the RLCA lower mount but its possible.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00YaskoFor a safety/dmv inspection road legal. Haven't really looked up a locking mechanism for hydro brakes, i just know you need to have a parking brake that locks...Edit: @Dan - I meant if you already have the Z32 setup, i can understand if you have the stock setup though seeing as it uses the same caliper.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00o.g.darkdrifterI've heard even with a system to keep the hyrdo locked it's not preffered to actually use it in any situation where you would need to use a traditional parking brake. Like on steep hills or driveways, or whan parked in front or back of another car. Apparently they lose pressure over time and allow the car to move.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodas dan stated secondary to be independent not that the factory parking is a required piece. you can still run inline. all though it has adverse affects to standard braking. im all for the new secondary kit. will make things much more efficient. which im all about!! hey will these work on a r32 ? someone just asked me about them.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoordered mine thanks!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00FalkonI'm pretty much ready to buy these as soon as I heard about them.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAThe hydrobrake we sell can be locked using the adjustable stop screw on the base structure. But it's not preferred to a cable brake for parking because it's relying on a seal. I would not say inline has adverse effects unless you crank on both the footbrake and handbrake at the same time as hard as you can. Only if the 32 is the same as s chassis.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodeh guess not so much adverse as chaning the pedal characteristics and i ask you cuz i thought you would know about the 32 lol bu i think it is dont quote me on that.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoI posted this on zilvia as wellAlso to those interested in the psm rear knuckle wilwood make a caliper that has a mechanical lock for park brake seperate to the hydraulic system but still within the same caliper so you can run this and a secondary caliper while retaining the factory park/hand brakeRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodprego wrote ...I posted this on zilvia as wellAlso to those interested in the psm rear knuckle wilwood make a caliper that has a mechanical lock for park brake seperate to the hydraulic system but still within the same caliper so you can run this and a secondary caliper while retaining the factory park/hand brakethats right i forgot about those there rather small and wide so dont know where the location of the second caliper if there would be an interferance with anything also would nee to have some custom cables made but there not to hard to manage and easy on the wallet at like 500 a pair. great suggestion paizon.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoIt would be great if they were part of the package or an available option with these knucklesRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00nathanong87wow these look tasty. i wouldn't be opposed to purchasing these down the road.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoIs there any chance you could get these with the dual rear combination with both stock brake locations so that you could just get two Silvia big rear brake upgrades since my car is not only for drifting I want to run larger brakes and of I could just buy to kits from say fast brakes for the rear of my Silvia I wouldn't need to fabricate anything new up and I could get the wilwood calipers with the mechanical lock to retain my standard handbrake for daily useRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAprego wrote ...I posted this on zilvia as wellAlso to those interested in the psm rear knuckle wilwood make a caliper that has a mechanical lock for park brake seperate to the hydraulic system but still within the same caliper so you can run this and a secondary caliper while retaining the factory park/hand brakebut is that available in the same 3.75" wide mounting pattern as this Wilwood 2 piston dynalight pro caliper?prego wrote ...Is there any chance you could get these with the dual rear combination with both stock brake locations so that you could just get two Silvia big rear brake upgrades since my car is not only for drifting I want to run larger brakes and of I could just buy to kits from say fast brakes for the rear of my Silvia I wouldn't need to fabricate anything new up and I could get the wilwood calipers with the mechanical lock to retain my standard handbrake for daily usestock caliper cant be mounted exactly in the stock location because if interference with the arms/rods, I think you just mean to ask can i use two stock calipers?In the future I think we will accomodate other setups but each setup will depend on customers bringing in the car to allow us to mock it up. From our experience with the stock caliper is really large on the back side so I fear it may interfere with the toe rod mount or the coilover lower mount. Also I dont know the shape of the adapter or the size of the brake disc to determine if we did mock up another stock caliper mount if it would send the final caliper location in the correct direction. if I were you I would fab a bracket to use the lightweight caliper on the big brakes second position because the stock one is too heavy to run two.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAHis calipers are mounted on a separate 1/8 inch thick plate that is sandwiched between the knuckle and the hub.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoSorry what I wrote is a bit messy basically what I want is a rear brake set up like matt powers car is right now because my car isn't drift only and I want to run bigger brakes my problem is though it is for an s15 and I'm in AustraliaRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00springo155are these almost ready for sale?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregooh basically i wanted to buy two of these kits http://www.fastbrakes.com/product_p/240sx%20rear%2012.2%20wilwood%20cpb.htm and off i go directly bolting onto your rear knuckleRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAthey are here!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoupdate on release?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00TravyPooany word at all yet on a price on these!?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Willy077Dave, time to move em from Wish List to Parts Shop MAX Products Forum Or can I pre-order them?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Marino.Would these work with 2 300zx calipers?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240Sweet! now since these are in stock, can you look into making them Z32 parking brake friendly asap. lol i wantRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregoAny updates ?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAmay 2nd arrival is my latest info. preordering is OK.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregowill these be available this month? preorder?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240stoked for the Z32 e-brake and dual caliper comboi wana place an order already just so you will for sure make them LOLRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240hey dan, when are you planning to redesign the knuckle to make it work with a 300zx parking brake? will the cost stay the same? how much will it cost + bracket for 2nd caliper?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00ryandevilhornsI want these, a lot.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USANo because It's not just about dropping the LCA mount in the rear... Like in the front.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00TravyPoohave you guys ever attempted doing roll centre correction with the oem rear knuckles? can it be done?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00wisdominationHey DanAny updates on the rear knucks?Hope you guys are looking into getting these z32 drum compatibleRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240thats what my original plan was but im a cheap assi might stick with pillowballRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAPricing has been announced on the production parts. $400/pair inventory arrives in marchRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00deolioso pretty!z32 version please!!!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00ryandevilhornsLooks nice, can't wait. Putting aside $400 for them now.Am I right that you can use S13/S14 rear rotors with 2 sets of S13/S14 rear calipers, OR Z32 rear rotors with 2 sets of Z32 rear calipers?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAone OEM caliper for the foot brake and one wilwood caliper for the hand brake http://www.summitracing.com/parts/WIL-120-9689/Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00silvia?i apologize i just got lost. i have z32 rear brakes. I can use this set up with z32 rear calipers and rotors correct? but I will lose my drum brake capabilities right...does the wilwood caliper work with z32 rotors?edit: idk if your familiar with the bolt on kit george sells on zilvia...but i have 4 z32 calipers and if i can just use his bolt on kit with your knuckle i would just do that since i have most of the parts already.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:0095SILVIA14can i go ahead and send ya an extra 400 when i order all my stuff next week and you just send out when they get in kinda like ya did with the rack bushingsRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAYes works with Z32 caliper and disc but not Z32 drum, Im sure the Willwood calipers will work with the Z32 disc. running 4 Z32 calipers would require welding a different mounting tab for the 2nd set of Z32 calipers you need to get a shipping quote if you send money for these.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:0095SILVIA14Give me a price on shipping to 37013 im ordering complete suspention for my s13 next weekRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAthere is no date on bushing arms, nothing more than a concept at this point, & if you are buying pillowball drop knuckles like you should mate that with a professional more adjustable set of pillowball based arms.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240sounds good, I'm in for a set along with the basic arms when they come out. maybe around april basic arms will be out?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAstock might be here around end of aprilRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240im hoping you guys will make Z32 drum brake work with these in the futureRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI understand people want it to be compatible with what they have right now, however if you drift you need to have the Hydrobrake and the wilwoods for a performance advantage. I know its another $340 for all that stuff but this knuckle is a good excuse to step up your game to a professional dual caliper system with the superior control of the short stroke hand brake next to the steering wheel.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAright, I guess we're gonna have to drill a hole in it for the big ass bolt anf move the lower mount gusset a little.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00daviebCurious what issues you had with the driftworks knuckles? I have the fronts and they seem alright, like strong and good lock however were annoying to install cos everything has so much powdercoat. Made my bolts for caliper not fit and rotor didnt align perfectly with caliper till i sanded some off etc. Avoided the rears when i read that the PBM could only achieve a 25mm drop when driftworks claims 50mm.Is there a willwood caliper for handbrake that would be compatible with the z32 rotor? I believe its 297mm x 18mm.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240i wana keep the z32 parking brake, have a foot brake, and a hydrobrakeRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Zakuzaare you taking pre-orders?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI guess I will take a look at it when the stock arrives and I have a set of Z32 brakes here. probably wont change the price much.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodjust leaving this here but yeah DRIFT WORKS KNUCLES ARE THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER DEALT WITH IN MY ENTIRE CAR LIFE!!!!!! this is backed up by josh guild oddie backhis and david glass so just saying dan mass produce something quick mang the world needs it !!!!!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodfrom what i experienced the car is verry un stable at full lock and you have to fight the car extremely hard to pull it away from lock. this is in comparison to ma knucles and the pbm knucles as well. i think this is the case becase the angle of the tie rod is straight up and down rather than tilted in slightly which takes away from the pulling power. also they were a pile of shit to line everything up seemed like nothing wanted to go on properly. fronts or rears. either way dan expect a call from me today !Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00pregohow far away are these now?also can i pre orderRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Carteldavieb wrote ...Curious what issues you had with the driftworks knuckles? I have the fronts and they seem alright, like strong and good lock however were annoying to install cos everything has so much powdercoat. Made my bolts for caliper not fit and rotor didnt align perfectly with caliper till i sanded some off etc. Avoided the rears when i read that the PBM could only achieve a 25mm drop when driftworks claims 50mm.Is there a willwood caliper for handbrake that would be compatible with the z32 rotor? I believe its 297mm x 18mm.Driftworks are now zinc plated - no more annoying powdercoat!!!!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240so is the Z32 parking brake friendly still happening?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAthe drum brake is not getting any love from us right now, but we are actively producing a Dual Z32 caliper type for Z32 disc.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240for you guys who own a set, what did you come up with for a alternative parking brake if you have one? edit: I guess I'll just use stock S13 caliper/parking brake. Does the stock S13 parking brake rely on the caliper piston/seal when parking brake is in use?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00rafas13perfect I'll wait for thoseRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00brohanwhats the estimated arrival timel for the rear knuckles, no rush just trying to figure out what should i purchase next. the rear knuckles will complete everything on my suspension.thanksRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAabout a monthRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00LoFoShokiller240 wrote ...Does the stock S13 parking brake rely on the caliper piston/seal when parking brake is in use?There is a mechanical lever that clamps down the pads. So no, the brake lines don't apply pressure to the pads via the caliper.On a side note, I ordered my rear drop knuckles the day or day after they were released.Installed them along with solid subframe bushings, adjustable control arms, and the front angle kit as well.The car drives awesome and now has a ton more rear grip while drifting. I also daily drive my car and it handles more predictably over bumps in the road now from reduced bump steer in the front and some corrected geometry in the rear.Some of the runs from the last drift day I did with front SAK and rear drop knuckles installed:Car performed flawlessly all day and even on the super rough surface of this place was able to hold my line all day compared to most who were struggling. Thanks for an awesome product!I posted the links since on the preview its not showing the videos. Hopefully when this posts it will have the videos embeded.
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAthat hoverting is the shit, there is some real money shots in there. If that was cut with on car and hand held shots, that would be a really cool video.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00brohanDan at MAX USA wrote ...about a monththank you!Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00NismoThank you Dan. That was me filming. My first time trying it with my quad not to bad for straight raw footage. Wanna trade a brand new one full setup for some z33 coil overs?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240any news on the dual caliper knucles?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00sr_240i have NA z32 rear hubs will i need to grind the tab on the hub for the ebrake to be able to run both calipers on the drop knuckle?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywooddude rc video is wave of the future shit. love that last vide with the pass under shot.. cant wait till you get more practice and get bettter.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAno news of the exact delivery date yet. Its the big threaded stud for the drum brake thats not compatible.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00sr_240i dont want to run the z32 ebrake. but i do have the NA z32 hubs. will they work with the dual caliper? or do i need to grind off the big tab on the hub that is for the factory ebrake?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAbecause that tab is totally flat and our knuckle is totally flat on that side i dont see any problemRe: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00FishWhen are these back in stock?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00killer240are you guys still going to come out with a dual caliper bracket version?Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Hollywoodinterested in the dual caliper rear set up as well.Re: Rear knuckle for s chassis
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2024-03-29T07:12:37+00:00Dan at MAX USAI twill be back in stock sometime between the 13th and 20th however I dont know if it will be all pre sold by then.